Upcoming Events

International | EU

no events match your query!

New Events

International

no events posted in last week

Blog Feeds

Anti-Empire

Anti-Empire

offsite link North Korea Increases Aid to Russia, Mos... Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:29 | Marko Marjanovi?

offsite link Trump Assembles a War Cabinet Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:29 | Marko Marjanovi?

offsite link Slavgrinder Ramps Up Into Overdrive Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:29 | Marko Marjanovi?

offsite link ?Existential? Culling to Continue on Com... Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:28 | Marko Marjanovi?

offsite link US to Deploy Military Contractors to Ukr... Sun Nov 10, 2024 02:37 | Field Empty

Anti-Empire >>

Human Rights in Ireland
Promoting Human Rights in Ireland

Human Rights in Ireland >>

Lockdown Skeptics

The Daily Sceptic

offsite link The Truth About RFK Jr. and the Samoan Measles Outbreak Tue Dec 17, 2024 17:30 | David Marks
RFK Jr is being blamed for a 2019 measles outbreak in Samoa. What this ignores, says David Marks, is that 98% of the cases were reportedly vaccinated a week earlier and the fatality rate was 10 times higher than normal.
The post The Truth About RFK Jr. and the Samoan Measles Outbreak appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link The Covid ?Lessons Learned? Report From the U.S. House of Representatives is Right to Condemn Lockdo... Tue Dec 17, 2024 15:42 | Dr David Bell
The Covid "lessons learned" report from the U.S. House of Representatives is right to condemn lockdowns, says Dr. David Bell. But why then does it want to give more power to the WHO?
The post The Covid “Lessons Learned” Report From the U.S. House of Representatives is Right to Condemn Lockdowns But Why Does it Want to Give More Power to the WHO? appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link Starmer More Unpopular After Five Months Than Any Other PM Since Polling Began 40 Years Ago Tue Dec 17, 2024 13:00 | Will Jones
Keir Starmer is more unpopular after five months in Downing Street than?any other Prime Minister?since polling on the question began in the late 1970s, according to the latest survey.
The post Starmer More Unpopular After Five Months Than Any Other PM Since Polling Began 40 Years Ago appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link Convicted Terrorist Sues Landlord of ?Saracen?s Head Pub Because Sign Offends Him Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:00 | Toby Young
A man convicted of inciting terrorism by spreading Jihadist propaganda is suing a pub called The Saracen's Head, claiming the sign will incite violence against Muslims. Not a Babylon Bee story!
The post Convicted Terrorist Sues Landlord of ?Saracen?s Head Pub Because Sign Offends Him appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

offsite link Dale Vince?s Ministry of Eco Education Preaches Climate Crisis to Seven Year-Olds Tue Dec 17, 2024 09:00 | Chris Morrison
Dale Vince's Ministry of Eco Education preaches about the climate crisis to seven year-old schoolchildren. Shouldn't we teach kids how to read and count instead of scaring them witless, asks Chris Morrison.
The post Dale Vince’s Ministry of Eco Education Preaches Climate Crisis to Seven Year-Olds appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.

Lockdown Skeptics >>

Voltaire Network
Voltaire, international edition

offsite link How Washington and Ankara Changed the Regime in Damascus , by Thierry Meyssan Tue Dec 17, 2024 06:58 | en

offsite link Statement by President Bashar al-Assad on the Circumstances Leading to his Depar... Mon Dec 16, 2024 13:26 | en

offsite link Voltaire, International Newsletter N?112 Fri Dec 13, 2024 15:34 | en

offsite link Israel Passes Law Allowing Four-Year Detention Without Trial or Evidence Fri Dec 13, 2024 15:27 | en

offsite link Jihadist Mohammed al-Bashir, new Syrian Prime Minister Fri Dec 13, 2024 15:24 | en

Voltaire Network >>

Lies, Damned Lies, and a Referendum Re-run

category international | eu | opinion/analysis author Friday June 20, 2008 14:36author by O. O'C. - National Platform EU Research and Information Centreauthor email info at nationalplatform dot orgauthor address 24 Crawford Avenue Dublin 9author phone 01-8305792 Report this post to the editors

The Irish Government lines up with Brussels against the Irish people

* Taoiseach Brian Cowen and Minister Michael Martin give in to Franco-German and EU Commission pressure to permit the remaining Lisbon ratifications to continue, when they could have stopped these by saying that Ireland cannot and will not ratify the Lisbon Treaty, as the Irish people have rejected it.

* The Irish Government lines up with Brussels against the Irish people rather than stands by the people's democratic decision of last week to defend it vis-a-vis Brussels - so as to bring about a 26/1 situation by year's end with which to bludgeon Irish voters in a referendum re-run.

* Talk of "respecting" Ireland's vote turns out in practice to be a cover for setting out to overturn it in a referendum re-run, with Brian Cowen's, Michael Martin's and Dick Roche's full support - and behind a thick barrier of hypocrisy, spoofing and lies.

Friday 20 June 2008

* These are the three principal lies Irish Government Ministers and the EU people are telling to hide their first steps towards preparing this Lisbon referendum re-run:

* LIE NO.1: That the nine EU States that have not yet ratified Lishon have a "right" to do so irrespective of the Irish No. There is no such right under either EU law or customary international law. Brian Cowen could stop any further ratifications by saying to his EU partners that he respects the Irish No, that because of that there is no question of trying to overturn it by re-running the referendum, and that therefore Lisbon is dead because Ireland cannot ratify it and there is no point any other ratifications continuing, for Lisbon cannot come into force unless all 27 ratify it. British Foreign Secretary David Milliband underlined this point last weekend when he said that it depended on Brian Cowen whether Lisbon was alive or dead.

* LIE No. 2: Minister Dick Roche was up to this usual spoofery on "Morning Ireland" today when he attacked Patricia McKenna for saying that the French and Dutch Governments stopped further ratifications of the EU Constitution in 2005 after their peoples voted No in their referendums. Minister Roche said that Luxembourg held a referendum on this Treaty after the French and Dutch No and in his usual gentlemanly fashion accused Ms McKenna of "telling lies". In fact, as the Minister is well aware, the Luxembourg referendum was held shortly after the French and Dutch referendums but BEFORE the French and Dutch Governments decided they would not re-run them, and therefore that they could not ratify the Constitutional Treaty - which led the remaining EU States, including Ireland, to abandon further ratifications at that time.

Messrs Cowen, Martin and Roche are spoofing like this, with their EU confreres helping them, to try to cover up the fact that the Irish Government is urging the nine remaining EU States to continue with their ratifications so as to bring about a 26/1 situation which can then be used to pressurise the Irish people to turn their No into a Yes in a second Lisbon referendum.

It is Messrs Cowen, Martin and Roche who are failing to "respect" the Irish people's No vote by effectively telling the other EU States not to respect it either, but to continue with their ratifications. Why should the other EU States respect last Thursday's referendum result when the Irish Government does not respect it, but sets out rather to subvert it, as they decided to do even while the voting tallies were being counted on Friday morning last?

Remember Foreign Minister Martin saying at luncthtime on the day of the count that "of course" the remaining ratifications would continue. Remember Commission President Barroso's at his press conference held before the count was even finished, following a phone chat with Taoiseach Cowen, saying the same thing.

If Messrs Cowen, Martin and Roche had a scintilla of the political courage and statesmanship of the founder of their Party, they would be telling their EU counterparts that they had no alternative but to open up Lisbon and work out a better Treaty for Ireland, for Europe and for a more democratic EU, instead of the supranational EU Federation, with laws made on a population basis, which is what is on offer in Lisbon.

* LIE NO.3: That the other EU States can go ahead with the Lisbon Treaty provisions under the rules for "enhanced cooperation". The barrack-room lawyers of the Irish media are speaking here. It is the enhanced cooperation rules of the EU Treaties as amended by the Nice Treaty that currently apply. It is nonsense to suggest that the enhanced cooperation provisions of one Treaty, viz. Nice, can be used to bring into force the far wider provisions of another Treaty, viz. Lisbon.

* NB: The number of EU Commissioners must be decided unanimously.
Under the current Nice Treaty(Protocol on the enlargement of the EU, Article 4), a reduction in the number of Commissioners to fewer than the number of Member States must be decided unanimously in 2009. Under the Lisbon Treaty(Article 17.5 TEU) the number of Commissioners must be reduced by two-thirds from 2014, "unless the European Council, acting unanimously, decides to alter this number."

At their next summit meeting in October or December the European Council of Prime Ministers and Presidents will make a "European decision" that when it comes to allocating EU Commissioners in 2014 in the post-Lisbon EU, Ireland and all Member States will be permitted to retain a permanent Commissioner, although in practice there may be senior and junior Commissioners. Because both the Nice and Lisbon Treaties lay down that arrangements for the Commission require unanimity, a commitment on these lines can be given without opening Lisbon.

Taoiseach Cowen will present this as a triumph for Irish diplomacy, while his EU colleagues will smile cynically to themselves. Then various Declarations will be given - to meet Irish concerns on company taxation, human rights, neutrality etc. - which will be tagged on to the Lisbon Treaty, but wll not alter a jot or tittle of its contents.

What threats or implicit threats will be needed to go with these promises? The most obvious one is that Irish voters will be told, as they were not told over the past months - that the Lisbon Treaty aims to establish a constitutionally new Federal Union and that the Irish must decide whether they want to be members of this or not, or do they want to keep the present EU as it stands under the Nice Treaty rules.

The other Member States still cannot ratify Lisbon and establish this new Union without Ireland's agreement. But the hope will be that this mix of promises and implicit threats will suffice to overturn the Irish people's No in Lisbon One and turn it into a Yes in Lisbon Two.

A democratic popular revolt in Ireland and across the EU is needed to prevent this happening and to prevent the anti-democratic Lisbon Treaty-cum EU-Constitution being clamped on most of the peoples of our continent.

- Anthony Coughlan

(Secretary, National Platform EU Research & Information Centre)

Related Link: http://www.nationalplatform.org

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   How is this democracy     drumcondradave    Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:23 
   We all signed up to play by these rules     O. O'C.    Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:03 
   Drumcondradave     Miriam    Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:35 
   We all consciously signed up?     Sean    Sat Jun 21, 2008 13:08 
   Correction of misleading comments     Sceptic    Sat Jun 21, 2008 13:16 
   Just a thought     Robert    Sat Jun 21, 2008 16:52 
   Correction, and a further thought ...     Robert    Sat Jun 21, 2008 18:38 
   Clarification/Correction     O. O'C.    Sun Jun 22, 2008 01:03 
   "UK will not ratify Lisbon treaty until after high court ruling"     Kay    Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:04 
 10   Two tier already!     Eoghan Mag    Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:19 
 11   two tier already? No     Sceptic    Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:56 
 12   Threats of an EU Totaliterian Superstate.     We the People    Sun Jun 22, 2008 13:05 
 13   there is no threat whatsoever el of a totalitarian EU-it is an absolute impossibility     Sceptc    Sun Jun 22, 2008 22:09 
 14   accept the Irish vote-no thanks     septic    Mon Jun 23, 2008 00:12 
 15   Sceptic (Regarding your Post at "Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:56" above)     Robert    Mon Jun 23, 2008 08:31 
 16   Reference: Post at "Sun Jun 22, 2008 13:05" above     Worried    Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:18 
 17   Silent Coup d'etat     We the People    Mon Jun 23, 2008 13:57 
 18   clarificiations     Sceptic    Mon Jun 23, 2008 15:11 
 19   Confirmation     Robert    Mon Jun 23, 2008 18:05 
 20   Stuart Wheeler     Browser    Mon Jun 23, 2008 18:50 
 21   Wheeler case     Sceptic    Mon Jun 23, 2008 21:02 
 22   Some further thoughts     Robert    Mon Jun 23, 2008 22:29 
 23   the set up unfolds...     Jimbob    Tue Jun 24, 2008 13:22 
 24   The Fourth Power     Maura    Wed Jun 25, 2008 09:58 
 25   First Government Response     MichaelY    Wed Jun 25, 2008 13:08 
 26   What a shocking waste of time and money?     Researcher    Wed Jun 25, 2008 14:25 
 27   People only wake up if you go up to them and wake them up     Jacob Ite & The Minty Teas    Tue Jul 01, 2008 01:00 
 28   Thanks to the Polish President     Yippie !    Tue Jul 01, 2008 06:58 
 29   Reply to "Yippie"     Sceptic    Tue Jul 01, 2008 21:47 
 30   immigration was NOT an issue     Barometer    Wed Jul 02, 2008 00:21 
 31   PLAN B     Jacob Ite & The Minty Teas    Fri Jul 04, 2008 18:42 
 32   Pollsters     Sceptic    Fri Jul 04, 2008 20:09 
 33   Yawn     Jacob Ite & The Minty Teas    Mon Jul 07, 2008 20:09 
 34   Double Talk     Damien    Mon Jul 07, 2008 21:43 
 35   Jacob     Sceptic    Mon Jul 07, 2008 22:10 
 36   Yawn double Yawn     Jacob Ite & The Minty Teas    Tue Jul 08, 2008 00:01 


Number of comments per page
  
 
© 2001-2024 Independent Media Centre Ireland. Unless otherwise stated by the author, all content is free for non-commercial reuse, reprint, and rebroadcast, on the net and elsewhere. Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by Independent Media Centre Ireland. Disclaimer | Privacy