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Greystones Harbour Deception

category wicklow | eu | news report author Wednesday February 20, 2008 22:16author by Concerned Citizens Action Committee - The Concerned Ctizens Action Committee Report this post to the editors

Greystones Harbour Corruption

The giveaway of a public beach to developers while 6,000 objections ignored. Here corruption is exposed. Most people however get to confused to understand the corruption but do not be fooled. None of the usual 'campaigners' bothered to fight this corruption and when delegates from our group went to a public meeting in Co.Dublin and brought up what is happening in Greystones,they were not bothered listening.

STATEMENT ON GREYSTONES NORTH BEACH
HARBOUR DEVELOPMENT & ITS FORESHORE

Thank you for giving us the opportunity in voicing the opposition to this scandal which is taking place before our very eyes in our coastal town of Greystones County Wicklow which always had a beautiful coastline and beach which the citizens of Greystones were proud of and now we are being subjected to our coastline and beach being ripped apart by mechanical diggers to make way for 341 residential units to be built out on our public foreshore which is a scandal in itself. We all agree that Greystones Harbour badly needed to be fixed up and refurbished with a proper Harbour and Marina for the general public which was in the original Plan for Greystones dated back to 1999.

This plan did not suit the developers so the public representatives changed all this in 2003 behind closed doors in Wicklow County Council and did not inform the people of Greystones and Delgany. Being a public representative yourself it is the duty of that elected member to keep the people informed at all times of what is going on in the community. We rely on them as our public representatives to put things right on the Council if they see something untoward going on.

It appears however that there is no opposition whatsoever when the vote is going one way all the time in favour of the developers and speculators and not for the people of the community. Planning Permissions and Re-zonings are being voted through and granted with impunity where the objections of the people have no legal standing and are just a mere obstruction in the eyes of the County Managers and their unelected officials who appear to have more power and say within the Local Authorities than the elected body themselves. Is this a democratic system when it has become a very dangerous situation when one man has this kind of power and control which is leaving the door open for corruption to prevail which has happened in the past.

We feel as a community that local democracy is gone and that the power of money has taken its place when 6,000 objections from the people of Greystones and Delgany have fallen on the deaf ears in relation to this agency An Bord Pleanala granting planning permission for the destruction of our public beach and foreshore under public private partnership and using an outdated law the Compulsory Purchase Order which they have used for taking over our public beach in which they have cornered off the whole area with builders hoarding by closing off public access to the beach which has now become a building site.

We as Irish citizens and members of Europe strongly object as to the way our beach and our democratic rights as Irish citizens are being ignored by the Irish State when we know that the north beach Greystones is protected under the Wicklow County Development Plan 2004-2010 when it was made into planning legislation in January 2004. It needs to be made clear that the local area plan for Greystones dated back to 1999 was the original plan for Greystones and Delgany and was used by the planners in making planning decisions up to the year 2003. The 1999 Greystones Delgany Development Plan protected the foreshore and its beach which is built in to the Wicklow County Development Plan as far back as 1999 and as stated was made into planning law in 2004 which An Bord Pleanala based their findings on this plan in the granting of Planning Permission. Serious questions now need to be asked of An Bord Pleanala as to why they granted permission when the local area plan for 2006 is outside the remit of the County Development Plan.

Planning Permission most certainly should not have been granted when An Bord Pleanala have based their findings on the Wicklow County Development Plan 2004-2010 which is in direct contravention of the Plan.

As a community we are making a formal complaint to the Petitions Committee for Europe that our objections had no voice which was completely ignored by An Bord Pleanala and Wicklow County Council in which democracy was subverted by them.

The 2 oral hearings which An Bord Pleanala held in relation to this serious matter was more like an arbitration hearing where the Inspector for the Board was there to trash out a deal in relation to compensation when a Valuer was brought in. Why was this? The first morning of the oral hearing a lot of people took time off work to attend the hearing but were treated like dirt by the Inspector who was a very arrogant and rude man and was designed in such a way to stop people in voicing their opinion when he informed them that this was not a public meeting. He did not explain to the people the format of the hearing. As a direct result of this the people stopped attending and the proceedings of the hearing continued with a small group of people on the No side calling themselves The Greystones Protection Development Association it was left in their hands where the majority of people in Greystones were left on the outside looking in at all of this. Why was there a need in holding 2 oral hearings when An Bord Pleana knew the majority of people in Greystones were opposed to this. We are calling for a public enquiry into An Bord Pleanala who are granting Planning Permissions with impunity where they are ignoring the objections and will of the people. It is a terrible endictment on the State when communities like Greystones and the combined Resident Associations in Sandymount have to appeal this kind of thing through the Irish Courts and have to make a formal complaint to a Member of the European Parliament sitting on the Petitions Committee when an Agency like An Bord Pleanala and Local Government has failed the people.

We would appeal to the Petitions Committee for Europe to take this Statement to the higher powers of the Parliament and make it known that local democracy does not exist in the 26 counties of Ireland when the likes of this is allowed to take place over the objections of 6000 of its people. We would like the decision on our beach to be reversed and give back what belongs to the people of Ireland.
Thanking you for taking the time and reading this Statement. Looking forward to a favourable reply. The citizens of Greystones, County Wicklow.
All of the plans can be viewed in the Library in Greystones (that's if you manage to get them off the staff....)
Alternatively we can email you the maps, contact us at [email protected]

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Just Another Example     Mark C    Thu Feb 21, 2008 13:13 
   Goodbye Greystones, Hello Suburb     Joseph    Thu Feb 21, 2008 13:46 
   GPDA     Paul Flynn    Thu Feb 21, 2008 16:08 
   The "fake" campaign     Angela    Thu Feb 21, 2008 16:17 
   GPDA     Greystones local    Thu Feb 21, 2008 16:43 
   Re: GPDA     Michael Martin    Thu Feb 21, 2008 18:02 
   The scandal     Resident in support of Michael Martin    Thu Feb 21, 2008 18:45 
   Failed campaign?     T    Thu Feb 21, 2008 19:03 
   Resist!     lulu    Thu Feb 21, 2008 19:22 
 10   I feel something starting     Joseph    Thu Feb 21, 2008 22:59 
 11   A start has been made!     Michael Martin    Fri Feb 22, 2008 00:50 
 12   Greystones Harbour     Michael Martin    Sat Feb 23, 2008 14:40 
 13   Michael Martin     Mary Skelly    Sat Feb 23, 2008 15:59 
 14   To Mary Skelly     Michael Martin    Sat Feb 23, 2008 16:58 
 15   SIMILARITY BETWEEN DEVELOPERS AND GPDA WEBSITE     Angela    Sat Feb 23, 2008 17:19 
 16   Meeting     Mary Skelly    Sat Feb 23, 2008 17:27 
 17   some credenials Mr Martin     Glen    Sat Feb 23, 2008 18:06 
 18   Some credtials for Glen     Greystones Activist    Sat Feb 23, 2008 20:33 
 19   Taking it from here     Michael Martin    Sat Feb 23, 2008 21:20 
 20   "Access denied"........     Michael Martin    Sun Feb 24, 2008 19:55 
 21   Fighting Corruption in Wicklow - General comment to all     Peter Brady    Sun Feb 24, 2008 21:56 
 22   Re: Concerned Citizens Action Committee     Michael Martin    Sun Feb 24, 2008 23:12 
 23   Contact Details for Concerned Citizens Action Committee Bray and Greystones     Peter Brady    Mon Feb 25, 2008 01:53 
 24   Eye sore!     Michael Martin    Wed Feb 27, 2008 17:10 
 25   e group a mad buzz     Bray head    Wed Feb 27, 2008 23:53 
 26   In response to Bray Head     Sorcha    Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:53 
 27   more madness...bad buzz     bray head    Thu Feb 28, 2008 15:50 
 28   Re: More madness....bad buzz     Michael Martin    Thu Feb 28, 2008 17:21 
 29   Greystones Harbour Deception     Peter Brady    Fri Feb 29, 2008 00:03 
 30   Re: Greystones Harbour deception     Michael Martin    Fri Feb 29, 2008 00:35 
 31   Meeting good idea     Paul Flynn    Sat Mar 01, 2008 15:59 
 32   Moving fast     Michael Martin    Sat Mar 01, 2008 19:04 
 33   Fighting Corruption in Wicklow - General comment to all     Peter Brady    Sun Mar 02, 2008 17:44 
 34   No more access to North beach     Michael Martin    Tue Mar 04, 2008 20:33 
 35   South beach is next     Concerned Resident    Wed Mar 05, 2008 16:32 
 36   The GPDA and the harbour     Fiachra Etchingham    Thu Mar 06, 2008 08:20 
 37   GPDA     Lennon    Thu Mar 06, 2008 13:18 
 38   Re: GPDA     Michael Martin    Thu Mar 06, 2008 13:55 
 39   Foreshore development and political corruption     Patricia McCafferty    Fri Mar 07, 2008 23:38 
 40   Beach Nourishment - brief of evidence Prof Andrew Cooper     Lennon    Sat Mar 08, 2008 19:49 
 41   Greystones Harbour Deception (2)     Peter Brady    Sun Mar 09, 2008 21:44 
 42   Saturday, March 08 2008     Michael Martin    Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:09 
 43   Photographic Record     Peggy    Wed Mar 12, 2008 01:34 
 44   supports the marina     LK    Wed Mar 12, 2008 15:16 
 45   Response to LK     Paul    Sat Mar 15, 2008 16:28 
 46   Response to Paul     LK    Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:05 
 47   Access to the Greystones public beach     George    Mon Mar 17, 2008 18:47 
 48   Paul's comment     LK    Tue Mar 18, 2008 19:15 
 49   Access to the Greystones public beach     George    Wed Mar 19, 2008 14:01 
 50   Public Right of Way to Beach     Patricia McCafferty    Wed Mar 26, 2008 01:24 
 51   Leaflet threw my door late last night     Redford Resident    Mon Apr 07, 2008 15:10 
 52   Thousands of tonnes of stone washed away.....     George    Mon Apr 07, 2008 22:00 
 53   Thousands of Tonnes of stones washed away     George    Tue Apr 22, 2008 22:40 
 54   dodgy law     aristotle    Thu Apr 24, 2008 23:19 
 55   Dodgy Law     George    Sun Apr 27, 2008 17:10 
 56   We'll fight them on the beaches!     Paul Leahy    Thu May 08, 2008 21:43 
 57   Well said Paul     Mark    Fri May 09, 2008 09:56 
 58   Darcy's Field     George    Mon May 26, 2008 23:15 
 59   ?     Joseph    Sun Jun 08, 2008 18:58 
 60   Great new harbour     99's    Tue Jun 10, 2008 13:49 
 61   Chair Dev. Committee     Ciaran Hayden    Tue Jun 10, 2008 13:57 
 62   Club Chairman     Alan Monahan    Tue Jun 10, 2008 14:19 
 63   Big Boat Club     Brown Envelope    Tue Jun 10, 2008 14:33 
 64   PPP no longer profitable for developer     George    Tue Jun 10, 2008 23:19 
 65   Thank God     Concerned resident    Wed Jun 11, 2008 14:26 
 66   Mr     99's    Wed Jun 11, 2008 15:14 
 67   Fair Play     A G'stones Resident    Wed Jun 11, 2008 17:58 
 68   Concerned     Concerned sailor    Thu Jun 12, 2008 09:29 
 69   It is true!!     99's    Thu Jun 12, 2008 09:46 
 70   Re sailing club     Patrick    Thu Jun 12, 2008 09:49 
 71   Re Sailing Club     Mary    Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:03 
 72   Sick after lunch     Patrick    Thu Jun 12, 2008 14:11 
 73   Fair Play     Bow Oar    Thu Jun 12, 2008 17:06 
 74   Sailing Club     Phat Cat    Fri Jun 13, 2008 08:21 
 75   Sailing Club     Bow Oar    Fri Jun 13, 2008 08:45 
 76   Complaints     Alan Monahan - Chairman    Fri Jun 13, 2008 09:14 
 77   New Harbour     Hobby Horse    Fri Jun 13, 2008 15:16 
 78   Facilities     M.M.    Sat Jun 14, 2008 00:36 
 79   Reason why sailing club refused deal     Lennon    Sat Jun 14, 2008 00:50 
 80   S.C.     Harbour User    Mon Jun 16, 2008 08:37 
 81   Mis-representing Facts     Numbers Man    Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:08 
 82   mis-representing the facts     James Joyce    Mon Jun 16, 2008 15:26 
 83   The Facts     M.M.    Mon Jun 16, 2008 18:29 
 84   The Real Facts     James Joyce    Tue Jun 17, 2008 08:38 
 85   More rubbish     Patrick    Wed Jun 18, 2008 14:27 
 86   Truth wins through     James Joyce    Wed Jun 18, 2008 16:52 
 87   School Tour     Parent    Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:42 
 88   Good to hear     99's    Fri Jun 20, 2008 13:51 
 89   Facts on submissions (Press Extract Feb '07)     Ciaran Hayden    Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:55 
 90   Facts of submissions     Brian    Thu Jun 26, 2008 22:15 
 91   Facts     James Joyce    Thu Jun 26, 2008 22:53 
 92   White Elephant     Gabriel    Fri Jun 27, 2008 23:07 
 93   Prophet of doom     Phat Cat    Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:22 
 94   Positive Project     James Joyce    Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:31 
 95   Futile Gloat     Harbour User    Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:51 
 96   Leaflet     Young Fine Gael member    Sat Jun 28, 2008 13:09 
 97   Prophet of Doom     Gabriel    Sat Jun 28, 2008 21:02 
 98   Flood prone     James Joyce    Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:59 
 99   Property     Sales man    Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:03 
 100   Re: Flood prone     M.M.    Sun Jun 29, 2008 19:17 
 101   History lesson     James Joyce    Mon Jun 30, 2008 09:11 
 102   Same old !!     99's    Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:04 
 103   History     Phat Cat    Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:43 
 104   Here! Here !     Patrick    Mon Jun 30, 2008 13:27 
 105   Liaison Group     James Joyce    Mon Jun 30, 2008 13:40 
 106   The Stocks     Hobby Horse    Mon Jun 30, 2008 14:32 
 107   Victorian Day     Phat Cat    Mon Jun 30, 2008 17:03 
 108   Don't get carried away     James Joyce    Mon Jun 30, 2008 20:33 
 109   Flood prone     Gavin    Mon Jun 30, 2008 21:35 
 110   No floods here!     James Joyce    Mon Jun 30, 2008 22:43 
 111   re floods     99's    Tue Jul 01, 2008 09:18 
 112   Crux of the issue     James Joyce    Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:39 
 113   Here here again.     Patrick    Tue Jul 01, 2008 16:14 
 114   Sailing Club     Elaine    Tue Jul 01, 2008 16:22 
 115   Re Committee     Derek    Tue Jul 01, 2008 16:34 
 116   Answers     James Joyce    Tue Jul 01, 2008 16:53 
 117   I lern     Shikaka    Tue Jul 01, 2008 17:01 
 118   Flood prone     Gavin    Tue Jul 01, 2008 21:59 
 119   GPDA     M.M.    Tue Jul 01, 2008 23:09 
 120   True Colours     James Joyce    Wed Jul 02, 2008 09:01 
 121   Huh !!     99's    Wed Jul 02, 2008 09:35 
 122   Well said     Patrick    Wed Jul 02, 2008 09:58 
 123   GPDA run Sailing Club     James Joyce    Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:51 
 124   Flood prone     Gavin    Wed Jul 02, 2008 21:16 
 125   Paid "so called experts"     James Joyce    Wed Jul 02, 2008 23:42 
 126   Yes     Patrick    Thu Jul 03, 2008 15:30 
 127   Flood risk - insurance     Gavin    Thu Jul 03, 2008 22:41 
 128   Reality     James Joyce    Fri Jul 04, 2008 08:50 
 129   Gavin     Patrick    Fri Jul 04, 2008 09:38 
 130   First Blocks     Harbour User    Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:12 
 131   The Harbour     M.M.    Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:24 
 132   Mis information     Harbour User    Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:32 
 133   "Public Access"     M.M.    Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:44 
 134   Great Progress Lads!     Boat User    Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:49 
 135   Sea level rising     Gavin    Fri Jul 04, 2008 13:40 
 136   access all areas     harbour user    Fri Jul 04, 2008 18:16 
 137   Prophet of Doom     James Joyce    Fri Jul 04, 2008 18:20 
 138   Property crash     Gabriel    Sat Jul 05, 2008 00:30 
 139   Prophets of Doom     James Joyce    Sat Jul 05, 2008 09:21 
 140   The Shape of things to come     Gabriel    Sat Jul 05, 2008 20:32 
 141   Keep it up     James Joyce    Sun Jul 06, 2008 00:18 
 142   Tidal wave at Greystones - January 1930     Gavin    Sun Jul 06, 2008 01:06 
 143   Negative     James Joyce    Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:25 
 144   Tidal wave at Greystones - January 1930     Gabriel    Sun Jul 06, 2008 21:31 
 145   Its happening     James Joyce    Sun Jul 06, 2008 22:37 
 146   Its happening     James Joyce    Sun Jul 06, 2008 22:37 
 147   Resignation     james    Mon Jul 07, 2008 09:49 
 148   Don't go!!     Patrick    Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:30 
 149   Re: It's happening     M.M.    Mon Jul 07, 2008 13:33 
 150   It is happening     Harbour User    Mon Jul 07, 2008 14:13 
 151   Rising Water....wat problem...........................     Boat User    Mon Jul 07, 2008 15:26 
 152   No rising damp here!     harbour user    Mon Jul 07, 2008 17:09 
 153   The Shape of things to come     Gabriel    Mon Jul 07, 2008 22:50 
 154   Doom and gloom     phat cat    Tue Jul 08, 2008 08:23 
 155   Abuse of Sisk staff     harbour user    Tue Jul 08, 2008 08:34 
 156   Expletives     Fisherman    Tue Jul 08, 2008 09:22 
 157   Sailors     Patrick    Tue Jul 08, 2008 09:27 
 158   Sailors     Fisherman    Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:16 
 159   Abuse     Harbour Driver    Wed Jul 09, 2008 15:34 
 160   well done     local resident    Thu Jul 10, 2008 20:47 
 161   Wicklow's Folly     Graham Mc Mahon    Thu Jul 10, 2008 23:18 
 162   Re slipway     Patrick    Fri Jul 11, 2008 09:30 
 163   Keep positive     Local Lad    Fri Jul 11, 2008 13:47 
 164   Apology     GPDA    Fri Jul 11, 2008 13:57 
 165   Wicklow's Folly     Greystones resident    Fri Jul 11, 2008 17:20 
 166   The Wicklow Folly     M.M.    Fri Jul 11, 2008 18:53 
 167   Wicklow's Folly     Former property developer    Fri Jul 11, 2008 20:52 
 168   same crap different authors     phat cat    Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:22 
 169   Harbour apartments all sold!     Realtor    Sat Jul 12, 2008 13:07 
 170   Slums of the future     Property Player    Tue Jul 15, 2008 17:54 
 171   Property insults     Slum dweller    Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:11 
 172   So we are in slums     Patrick    Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:41 
 173   positive     harbour user    Wed Jul 16, 2008 15:42 
 174   The Bubble     The Economist    Thu Jul 17, 2008 23:12 
 175   Positive     99's    Fri Jul 18, 2008 09:57 
 176   Re apartment     Elaine    Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:06 
 177   Waiting list for Harbour Apartments     Realtor    Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:08 
 178   Falling property values     The Economist    Mon Jul 21, 2008 22:21 
 179   86343/ greystones harbour     michael bradshaw    Tue Jul 22, 2008 05:25 
 180   Never ever ever buy from the plans     The Solicitor    Tue Jul 22, 2008 21:52 
 181   Whats happening?     Harbour User    Wed Jul 23, 2008 13:03 
 182   Positive Press     phat cat    Mon Jul 28, 2008 16:13 
 183   Nobody wants apartments     The Estate Agent    Tue Jul 29, 2008 22:27 
 184   This is not Dublin     Patrick    Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:41 
 185   This is not Dublin     Estate Agent    Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:04 
 186   Mmmmm!     Patrick    Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:18 
 187   Demand for apartments     Estate Agent    Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:10 
 188   Property on the up!     Realtor    Sat Aug 09, 2008 13:21 
 189   Don't think so     Patrick    Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:06 
 190   Residential & commercial     Planner    Mon Aug 11, 2008 20:42 
 191   The Giveaway of a Public Beach.     Mr.Peter Brady Alias.    Tue Aug 19, 2008 21:05 
 192   Sour Grapes     Native    Wed Aug 20, 2008 00:27 
 193   The Survey     Peter Brady Alias    Thu Aug 21, 2008 18:11 
 194   We support the 1999 Greystones Delgany Development Plan and not the 2006 local area rogue plan     Peter Brady Alias    Thu Aug 21, 2008 19:49 
 195   The FG battle of the gloss!!     Greystones resident    Thu Aug 21, 2008 20:43 
 196   greystones harbour deception     actor    Sat Aug 23, 2008 07:33 
 197   Sickening     John Sawyers    Sat Aug 23, 2008 17:36 
 198   Democracy is being ignored.     Fintan o'Hara    Sun Aug 24, 2008 01:18 
 199   Same old !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     Deirdre    Mon Aug 25, 2008 09:07 
 200   The Democratic Rights of the Irish Citizens.     Mr.Peter Brady alias.    Tue Aug 26, 2008 00:43 
 201   Who are you?     Native    Tue Aug 26, 2008 09:45 
 202   For Fintan     Deirdre    Tue Aug 26, 2008 09:46 
 203   I am staying away already     M.M.    Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:22 
 204   Facts on objectors     Ciaran Hayden    Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:42 
 205   TWO Oral Hearings     Mildred    Wed Aug 27, 2008 19:58 
 206   An Bord Pleanala     Rower    Thu Aug 28, 2008 08:32 
 207   Oral hearings     Patrick    Thu Aug 28, 2008 09:00 
 208   An Bord Pleanala     phat cat    Thu Aug 28, 2008 09:12 
 209   Progress     Rower    Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:20 
 210   I agree     Deirdre    Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:28 


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