32CSM uncover huge drugs haul in East Tyrone

by Paula - Dry as anon Thu Jan 31, 2008 19:22

In all seriousness you brought the local priest down? And grassed up!
Wonder if it was Supergrass.

Look lads, cannabis ain't the problem. Are you going to send a priest down to get publicans who sell alcohol to overly merry customers or hit the system where we can't face the day without a drink or a toke.

http://www.indymedia.ie/article/82410

I would have preferred a redistribustion according to needs. Those with severe pain, arthritis etc would fare better with a few joints than giving the PSNI a chance to lock some one up.

That's only an opinion, if it counts for anything around here.

by Bob Marley - Freedom to Party Party Fri Feb 01, 2008 14:29

WTF?
You help out the RUC/PSNI and you go and boast about it? You do this in conjunction with the clergy? Next you'll be wearing black shirts strike breaking.

by cable Fri Feb 01, 2008 16:59

It's an oddity, cannabis production is always referred to as coming from a 'factory', (not a farm?), but even battery produced eggs are described as from a farm.

by Moo Kasey Fri Feb 01, 2008 17:25

Urgent:
All over Ireland are purveyors of one of the most toxic and dangerous commodities. It is addictive. It destroys the liver and the brain. In Ireland alone it causes tens of thousands of deaths each year. It is closely associated with spousal abuse and suicide. These establishments can be found in any town or village. Usually there's a sign advertising the toxic product.
Your concern over cannabis is very commendable. But there is no known case of this drug ever causing a death. Alcohol causes death to thousands and misery to many more. We look forward to your campaign.

by C.I. - CannabisIreland Sat Feb 02, 2008 17:53

Congrats lads you made frontpage on http://cannabisireland.net haha

by Ed Sat Feb 02, 2008 18:25

Well I suppose the when the shinners sold out it was only a mater of time before the 32 CSM did as well.
Not that I'm saying theres anything wrong with uncovering the drug producing scum that did this.
Fair play to the, for that. But telling a priest so he would go to the RUC. What the fuck was this about.
10 years ago the Ra would have sorted this scum out themselves. Now its left to the RUC to do it.
changed fucking times....

by C.I. - CannabisIreland.net Sat Feb 02, 2008 19:07

^^^^ EDUCATE YOURSELF! ^^^^

http://cannabisireland.net/index.php?option=com_content...d=343
http://cannabisireland.net/index.php?option=com_content...d=343
http://cannabisireland.net/index.php?option=com_content...d=343

That goes for the 32CSM too. Talking about black propaganda campaigns, member harassment (by PSNI and the gardai), standing up against oppression etc. While taking "action" like this and giving no explanation, makes you seem like the plankton of the intellectual food chain.

by ItsJustMe - CannabisIreland Sat Feb 02, 2008 20:22

Aint it very laudable of the 32CSM to drag a priest along to go and run to the RUC/PSNI to finish off there dirty work for them!
Is it because it didn't belong to you 32CSM heads that you felt it your moral duty(LOL)to report this find!!
Wake up to reality lads FFS!!. It's only a bit of cannabis,, it aint doing NO harm to anyone,, and if you think it is then the poster above
is right. Go and EDUCATE yourselves about Cannabis! Ye are laughable to the extent where i nearly fell off my chair reading this BS!!
Have a good one!

by quirk Sun Feb 03, 2008 18:51

I think that most people who have replied have not got the point of the press release. These people were anti social elements and I am sure that there is more to it than them just growing cannabis for themselves. In many instances drug dealers use cannabis to finance bigger ventures. They are in essence business men who will sell what is most profitable to them.

As for the priest going to the RUC - all occupying powers have a duty under international law to provide law and order and to force them to do so is no problem in my book.

by Mrs O'Neill Sun Feb 03, 2008 20:13

Why not go after the dealers who are poisoning our children with Heroin and Cocaine?
Everyone knows that it is elements within the INLA that are controlling the Drug trade here. They
are not Republicans, and they should be shown up for what they really are dirty self -serving scumbags. Smash the INLA and you will go a long way to solving the drug crisis on both sides of the border.

by Marky Mon Feb 04, 2008 13:30

"As for the priest going to the RUC - all occupying powers have a duty under international law to provide law and order and to force them to do so is no problem in my book."

So Quirk. If the "occupying powers" arrested Republican terrorists for smuggling or for possession of weapons or explosives or in the middle of a punishment beating, presumably you wouldn't have a problem with that as they are all illegal acts.

by quirk Mon Feb 04, 2008 13:56

There is a difference between crime and an act of insurgency.

by Kevin Murphy - 32CSM Tue Feb 05, 2008 16:42

It has been clarified that the 32csm members went to destroy the drugs but when confronted by the sheer volume, and the fact that those in the house became hysterical withdrew. The priest in question also began to panic and the activists, believing that due to the commotion the police were on their way chose not to get caught in a drugs factory. The priest was brought along to verify that the republican activists were solely there with the intention of destroying the drugs.

by Dr No Tue Feb 05, 2008 20:04

So how did they intend to get into the house?
I doubt if those inside would have invited them in.
Did they intend to force an entry with a priest there?

by Kevin Murphy Tue Feb 05, 2008 20:33

The activists did get into the house.

by Barry - 32 csm Tue Feb 12, 2008 19:29

while discovering about £ 350,000 sterlings worth of grass they actually failed to spot a chinese national fast asleep and rolled up in a carpet , who was still asleep when the peelrs arrived and woke him . As regards the decision to call the cops by a local who accompanied 32 csm to the scene it was originally decided to burn the house down but that would have harmed the owner of the house whod rented it out . Not to mention the stoned chinaman in the carpet .

Suzanne Breen has a fuller take on it and interviewed people who were at the scene

"" Republican dissidents have uncovered a huge cannabis factory in Co Tyrone. A bizarre series of events led to police dismantling the €1.5m drugs' den and two Chinese men being charged in connection with the find.

Kevin Murphy of the 32 County Sovereignty Movement said the group was approached by "concerned members of the community" about suspicious activity in a house rented to Chinese men on the Limehill Road in Kildress, near Pomeroy.

"There were reports of strange comings and goings, cars arriving late at night, lights turned on and off at funny times, and the house being deserted during daylight hours.

"There's a growing drugs' problem in the area so we were suspicious. Local people were reluctant to go to the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI), and all Sinn Féin do is tell people to go to the police, so that's why they contacted us."

Security sources say the Sovereignty Movement is the Real IRA's political wing, a claim the group denies. The landlord had been unable to gain access to the house because the locks had been changed.

Murphy, an ex-Provisional IRA prisoner, arrived at the detached house along with two local people, and smashed down the door. "I knew something dodgy was going on but I was stunned at what I saw. The house was in total darkness and there was an awful smell," he said.

"Every room, bar one, was covered in tin-foil from floor to ceiling. There were hundreds of cannabis plants everywhere – from huge big ones to tiny seedlings. I couldn't believe my eyes. The ordinary lights in the house had been replaced with heavy fluorescent ones.

"The only room without plants had been turned into a packaging area with dozens of little cannabis parcels tightly packed in cling film sitting on the floor ready for delivery." Murphy said an elaborate ventilation system to remove toxic waste produce from the cannabis factory had been installed in the roof-space: "It wasn't an amateur job. It was good material. They'd used 15" stainless steel piping."

The toilet had been removed and the internal plumbing used for a sprinkler system to water the plants. The electricity was rigged with a nail driven into the meter clock.

"There were several five gallon drums of urine which the drug bosses must have been using. These would have taken these away for disposal, leaving no DNA traces," Murphy said. There were also several pairs of gloves in the house which apparently had been used to avoid leaving finger-prints

Murphy took pictures of the cannabis factory on his mobile phone: "But we didn't know what to do after that. There were far too many plants for us to destroy. Personally, I'd have burned the house down but that would have hurt the owner and none of it was his fault."

Murphy and the two people accompanying him, contacted the local priest, Fr Hughes, and asked him to come to the house to observe the drugs' haul. Fr Hughes said: "Three members of the community asked me to visit the house as a witness and I did. There was a large amount of plants at various stages of growth. The whole set-up looked very organised."

Murphy and one of the local people left the house. The second local man then called the police. "When they arrived, they found a Chinese man stoned out of his head hidden inside a rolled-up carpet in one room. We had missed him," Murphy said.

The PSNI confirmed they were called to the house by a member of the public. The premises were sealed off and, in a two-day operation, police took away 500 cannabis plants worth €375,000 and capable of generating an annual income of €1.5m.

Two men later appeared in court in connection with the find. Maoxi Zhuan, a Chinese national from the Limehill Road in Kildress, was charged with possession of a class c drug, intent to supply, involvement in the drug's production, and illegally entering the UK. He was remanded in custody.

Wong Tim Cheung from Ballymena, Co Antrim, was charged with cultivating cannabis plants, possession of cannabis, intent to supply, producing a class c drug with another person, and dishonestly diverting electricity at a house on the Limehill Road.

He was granted bail on condition he surrendered his passport, reported daily to police, observed a curfew, and had no contact with witnesses. Kevin Murphy said: "This isn't a race issue. There are local people involved in the drugs' trade in East Tyrone.

"The problem has grown worse since the IRA ceasefire. Young people in debt to drug dealers are coming to us, and parents worried about what their children are taking have been in contact.

"Young fellows out of their heads on drugs are doing hand-brake turns and speeding around the roads of Dungannon, Coalisland, and Pomeroy. We've been gathering information on the dealers. We've video tape of some snorting cocaine to test it. "

Murphy claimed the PSNI was currently flooding the area: "But they're more interested in recruiting people to spy on republicans than catching drug-dealers. Normally, the cops bring in the cameras if they rescue a cat from a tree but they've played down this drugs' find because of republican involvement in its discovery."

Murphy said that, in this case, republican dissidents took "a pragmatic approach" to a local man contacting the PSNI "but next time we find a drugs' factory, I'd personally have no qualms about burning the house down". He urged anyone noticing suspicious activity to contact the Sovereignty Movement.

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by pothead Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:55

more on the war against drugs here

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0214/british_irish.html

by Michelle Clarke - Social Justice and Ethics Fri Feb 15, 2008 19:47

'The discovery of such a huge operation by the 32CSM has undoubtedly helped in the fight against criminality and drugs in this rural area and we commend our members for their actions. We also urge anyone with information on drug dealing and anti social behaviour to contact the 32 County Sovereignty Movement' Quoted from above posting......

The War on Drugs..... Good to see East Tyrone focus on illegal drugs. As we all know drugs are a 32 county issue and given the penetration expertise of the dealers, all hands are needed on deck, working against the hideous outcomes of addiction to illegal drugs that enable dealers to live exclusive life styles in countries that harbour them for their 'wealth'.

Dublin has had a year of violent deaths related to illegal drugs....and then there has been the swipe in Spain.......the CAB has made hits also.

As a person with mental health problems, and medications, I have attended the public system in the South........My goal is by the day, and to be constant in the taking of my psychiatric medications - I believe that as they have been prescribed by a Consultant Psychiatrist, that in a moral way, I am honouring my side of the contract with him i.e. to take the medications as prescribed, not to drink alcohol, and not to mess with illegal drugs even....the weed. It is like taking a pledge for me personally. It is only about taking some responsibility for this life of mine......I also have been given the barbituates and was heavily reliant on these in difficult times. I learnt that as the awful anxiety abated, the reliance on the Valium did also.

'Can you imagine when I read this article?

The English Times....Wednesday February 6, 2008

Headline: 'Cannabis dealers prey on hospital'. All the expletives fell flowingly from my mouth until the sheer horror angered me.

If you cannot be safe in a mental health unit - where can you be safe? Today our news talks about a Mother and a Daughter trying every option to get a bed.....the girl is suicidal and there are awful precipitating factors......she was abused as a child. This mother has been forced to seek help by the Media........we have heard many mothers phone Joe Duffy show in similar situations......looking for a bed....in an appropriate psychiatric unit.........I think East Tyrone/North fair better with the NHS than in Dublin and rest of Ireland.

It is a whistleblower who speaks out - a top health official.

These invidious drug dealers sink to levels so low as befriending vulnerable people in the mental hospitals. Professor Louis Appleby, National Director for Mental Health told the Times ........ that well known drug dealers visitedd mental health units and openly exploited patients who were ill.

This is at a time when findings state that the potent 'skunk' now accounts for up to 80% of cannabis sold on the street (this was 15% circa 6 years ago). What is happening to people? Do they not even realise that they are being conned on two scores, the substance and the effect!!! How stupid are we.....

The old adage of 'Knowledge is no Load' is called for. We can look for remedies, we can seek hysteria, but in today's society and the prevalence of the internet, we can all take responsibility and make the change and stop the illegal drugs.....

Marcus Roberts from Mind (excellent site) said that many of the wards were visited by these 'Dracula beings'. Those that want to take ever sup of blood from our young people, leaving them open to poor health, HIV, Hepatitus, - a non equal status.

In England, there is an advisory council and Simon Byrne, the officer for the Police Officer said that they were in support of re-categorising the use of Cannabis to the higher category again. This is a statement that people in England and the Island of Ireland should note. The police in England have raided 2,000 farms in England.....where plants are being grown.

Why the increased demand? They speak of THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN RISK AND REWARD.

In England Cannabis is a Class C drug..........therefore the Risks are lower. The outcome is that CRIMINALS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS......

In England, as demand increases, criminal concerns run by Vietnamese are on the increase.

So what about Ireland.......Are we following the patterns? Dublin has become so multicultural now I reckon, we are

But are we responsible?

I fear not. I would hate to think that in a psychiatric unit in Ireland, where me or any member of my family were hospitalised that the exposures could be as great as to get cannabis ....... putting you in the way of mixing psychiatric medications and skunk or cannabis and running the real risk of a psychosis.

Full Life - Jonathan Swift (1667-1745)
'May you live every day of your life'

Illegal drugs destroy lives.....too many lives.....Say No to Drugs and make people Aware of the harm involved.......

by Michelle Clarke - Social Justice and Ethics Fri Feb 15, 2008 19:47

'The discovery of such a huge operation by the 32CSM has undoubtedly helped in the fight against criminality and drugs in this rural area and we commend our members for their actions. We also urge anyone with information on drug dealing and anti social behaviour to contact the 32 County Sovereignty Movement' Quoted from above posting......

The War on Drugs..... Good to see East Tyrone focus on illegal drugs. As we all know drugs are a 32 county issue and given the penetration expertise of the dealers, all hands are needed on deck, working against the hideous outcomes of addiction to illegal drugs that enable dealers to live exclusive life styles in countries that harbour them for their 'wealth'.

Dublin has had a year of violent deaths related to illegal drugs....and then there has been the swipe in Spain.......the CAB has made hits also.

As a person with mental health problems, and medications, I have attended the public system in the South........My goal is by the day, and to be constant in the taking of my psychiatric medications - I believe that as they have been prescribed by a Consultant Psychiatrist, that in a moral way, I am honouring my side of the contract with him i.e. to take the medications as prescribed, not to drink alcohol, and not to mess with illegal drugs even....the weed. It is like taking a pledge for me personally. It is only about taking some responsibility for this life of mine......I also have been given the barbituates and was heavily reliant on these in difficult times. I learnt that as the awful anxiety abated, the reliance on the Valium did also.

'Can you imagine when I read this article?

The English Times....Wednesday February 6, 2008

Headline: 'Cannabis dealers prey on hospital'. All the expletives fell flowingly from my mouth until the sheer horror angered me.

If you cannot be safe in a mental health unit - where can you be safe? Today our news talks about a Mother and a Daughter trying every option to get a bed.....the girl is suicidal and there are awful precipitating factors......she was abused as a child. This mother has been forced to seek help by the Media........we have heard many mothers phone Joe Duffy show in similar situations......looking for a bed....in an appropriate psychiatric unit.........I think East Tyrone/North fair better with the NHS than in Dublin and rest of Ireland.

It is a whistleblower who speaks out - a top health official.

These invidious drug dealers sink to levels so low as befriending vulnerable people in the mental hospitals. Professor Louis Appleby, National Director for Mental Health told the Times ........ that well known drug dealers visitedd mental health units and openly exploited patients who were ill.

This is at a time when findings state that the potent 'skunk' now accounts for up to 80% of cannabis sold on the street (this was 15% circa 6 years ago). What is happening to people? Do they not even realise that they are being conned on two scores, the substance and the effect!!! How stupid are we.....

The old adage of 'Knowledge is no Load' is called for. We can look for remedies, we can seek hysteria, but in today's society and the prevalence of the internet, we can all take responsibility and make the change and stop the illegal drugs.....

Marcus Roberts from Mind (excellent site) said that many of the wards were visited by these 'Dracula beings'. Those that want to take ever sup of blood from our young people, leaving them open to poor health, HIV, Hepatitus, - a non equal status.

In England, there is an advisory council and Simon Byrne, the officer for the Police Officer said that they were in support of re-categorising the use of Cannabis to the higher category again. This is a statement that people in England and the Island of Ireland should note. The police in England have raided 2,000 farms in England.....where plants are being grown.

Why the increased demand? They speak of THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN RISK AND REWARD.

In England Cannabis is a Class C drug..........therefore the Risks are lower. The outcome is that CRIMINALS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS......

In England, as demand increases, criminal concerns run by Vietnamese are on the increase.

So what about Ireland.......Are we following the patterns? Dublin has become so multicultural now I reckon, we are

But are we responsible?

I fear not. I would hate to think that in a psychiatric unit in Ireland, where me or any member of my family were hospitalised that the exposures could be as great as to get cannabis ....... putting you in the way of mixing psychiatric medications and skunk or cannabis and running the real risk of a psychosis.

Full Life - Jonathan Swift (1667-1745)
'May you live every day of your life'

Illegal drugs destroy lives.....too many lives.....Say No to Drugs and make people Aware of the harm involved.......

by Barry - 32 csm Sun Feb 17, 2008 07:15

The links between schizophrenia and other psychoses and cannabis use in the young are much too disturbing to overlook and scoff at . Increasingly dealers are growing more potent strains of the drug . The criminality and nihilistic gangsterism that goes hand in hand with the illegal narcotics trade is a very serious business . Young people are actively encouraged to get into debt with these scumbags and end up in all sorts of trouble . while no-one argues small actions like this can cure a wider social problem it keeps the gangsters at bay in one small rural rural community and encourages communities to empower themselves , to know that some people will physically fight their corner for them and with them .

by Kevin T. Walsh - Social Justice and Ethics Sun Feb 17, 2008 20:00

Michelle

You wrote an interesting article on a major drugs find in East Tyrone. I see Barry gave you a very good answer also.

I want to ask what is the 32CSM!? Is this Robot Cops? Who are these people? I want to praise them. They have done what any decent citizen would do in any jurisdiction - they phoned the cops.

Now on the other hand, if these are some splinter group - I commend them highly and encourage to continue to listen to the Chuckle Brothers who have now joined the Policing Board of the North of Eire. Well done whoever you are and well done Barry, a very committed answer. Drugs are out and the boys in the policing board are in. We will all work together with Adams, Bertie, Gordon, Clousseau in Paris, Holmes in Baker Street. Barry, well done to the Boys and Michelle well done for a very good article.

Kevin T. Walsh

Quotation
Up to You
'You must be the change you want to see in the world'
MK Gandhi (1869-1948) - Indian Nationalist Leader

Recommend website: www.headline.ie It incorporates all connections via media with Mental Health, Suicide etc. This is a well researched site.