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Gadaffi Death Chaos Leaves Ntc And Nato Pr Machine With Questions To Be Answered

category international | anti-war / imperialism | opinion/analysis author Saturday October 22, 2011 12:57author by Serf Report this post to the editors

Gadaffi was no saint but the circumstances of his death and the death of his son leave a lot of questions to be answered about this campaign, about NATO, and about the collusion of the media in all of this.
gadaffi.jpg

Gadaffi was no saint its true. He squirrelled away billions of oil revenue belonging to the Libyan people for himself and his own, amassed a large arsenal of weaponry and engaged in torture in co-operation with CIA personnel.

But as dictators go, he was pretty mild it has to be said. And a reasonable degree of the wealth did make its way down to the people through infrastructure projects and personal funding. Much has been written about the green revolution and there is evidence that some of its ideas were even put into practice.

The "rebellion" in Libya has its own problematic aspects

The UN security council voted to create a no fly zone in response to media reports of an impending massacre by Gadaffi in Bhenghazi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNuN3nLt1N0

This mandate was used as an excuse for regime change

The NTC were lead by a CIA AlQaeda asset who cut a deal with the US
http://rt.com/usa/news/al-qaeda-libya-commander-escobar-269/

NTC atrocities were widespread, but supressed by media
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/aug2011/pers-a29.shtml

Media lies and disinformation abounded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyejW7thgNY
http://recognizereality.com/conspiracy/celebrating-libyan-crowd-is-waving-indian-flags-at-tripoli-bbc-is-lying

The Death of Gadaffi and his son are now shrouded in controversy. (see video clip)
There are several conflicting reports but piecing things together, it looks like a drone hit Gadaffi's group and he was injured. He then crawled into a drain to hide. NTC Fighters dragged him out and some time after, he was shot in the head or neck and killed. Probably on orders from on high in order to simplify any possible embarrassing aftermath if he spills the beans on their co-operative torture activities and other matters.

Similarly his son was filmed clearly alive then photos appeared later of his dead body.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU62ajMs_-w
here's one such gloating video over pictures of his sons dead body after a "firefight". clearly a lie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwZ-FdRyLjE&NR=1
(that last picture is not a peace sign but an up yours to the truth!)

Another high profile casualty of this campaign was the once progressive news channel Al Jazeera (english), (now trumpetted as kosher even by Hilary Clinton)! Apparently reports surfaced courtesy of wikileaks not too long ago regarding collusion between the head of the network and the CIA leading to an embarrassing resignation. After this it became increasingly clear that the stations backers from Qatar had stepped in and made their presence felt and we could no longer trust the balance shown by this once progressive station.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMPqIAtCO-E

Its news reports on Libya were so biased that I found that just could not watch them after a while.
This is a far cry from the days when US soldiers were ordered to fire on their building during the gulf war.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/apr2003/jaz-a09.shtml

Also, interestingly, youtube's most accessed version of the death of Gadaffi is allowed by a simple button press. It is only the half of the video after Gadaffi has been killed.

You'll find it a little more difficult to get the whole video on youtube which shows Gadaffi alive. First you'll have to sign in or re-verify your google account. Interesting how there is a difference between accessing both versions!

Easy to get the one that is not controversial
http://www.youtube.com/verify_controversy?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dg07otrwI4j4

But somewhat Harder to find and access the one that is. Make your own mind up on this one
http://www.youtube.com/verify_agenext_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DSOcBhmYtzwQ

This same situation occurred with the wikileaks "collateral murder" video until it became too well known.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0

maybe my computer sucks but coincidentally none of these video clips ever seem to play properly on youtube for me! anyone else seem to have the same problem? ;-)

For those interested there is a very informative article here on the details of Gadaffis capture
http://www.firstpost.com/world/gaddafi-caught-like-rat-in-a-drain-humiliated-and-shot-114313.html

Caption: Video Id: wknw5UwClFI Type: Youtube Video
Gadaffi capture video from RT


 #   Title   Author   Date 
   @serf     Contrarian    Sat Oct 22, 2011 18:03 
   Contrarian     pat c    Sat Oct 22, 2011 18:47 
   Gaddafi burial delayed     AJ    Sat Oct 22, 2011 19:34 
   left support for the invasion of Libya     tomeile    Sat Oct 22, 2011 21:02 
   Gaddafi RIP     Caobhin    Sat Oct 22, 2011 21:29 
   SWP helped "justify" the lynching of Black people in Libya     An Draighneán Donn    Sun Oct 23, 2011 18:52 
   Colonel Gaddafi captured and killed     pat c    Sun Oct 23, 2011 20:14 
   ADD     opus diablos    Sun Oct 23, 2011 20:22 
   Time to face Reality     An Draighneán Donn    Sun Oct 23, 2011 22:03 
 10   Maybe     The Shadow    Sun Oct 23, 2011 23:48 
 11   The Shadow     An DD    Mon Oct 24, 2011 00:13 
 12   The SWP defend Women's rights     An Draighneán Donn    Mon Oct 24, 2011 00:40 
 13   @add     opus diablos    Mon Oct 24, 2011 13:39 
 14   Public anger alone does nothing     An DD    Mon Oct 24, 2011 14:57 
 15   hold on..     opus diablos    Mon Oct 24, 2011 15:17 
 16   The Fall of Libya     Declan cullen    Mon Oct 24, 2011 15:55 
 17   With friends like these who needs enemies. Gaddaffi's former friends gallery     T    Tue Oct 25, 2011 15:57 
 18   Gaddafi Executed, Western imperialist vultures descend on Libya     pat c    Wed Oct 26, 2011 14:40 
 19   A disreputable group in Irish leftism     Felix Quigley    Wed Oct 26, 2011 16:23 
 20   it might help, felix     opus diablos    Wed Oct 26, 2011 21:28 
 21   Where exactly was the justification?     An Draighneán Donn    Thu Oct 27, 2011 00:07 
 22   Are Barrewtt and the SWP correct on this issue?     Felix Quigley    Thu Oct 27, 2011 09:22 
 23   why not expand??felix     opus diablos    Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:30 
 24   The Duped Left     An DD    Fri Oct 28, 2011 01:01 
 25   @patc     Contrarian    Fri Oct 28, 2011 09:19 
 26   firstly for ADD     opus diablos    Fri Oct 28, 2011 09:58 
 27   Opus, glad you refer to Global Research, take this!     Felix Quigley    Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:20 
 28   process of islamisation     opus diablos    Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:41 
 29   Opus     pat c    Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:10 
 30   @Contrarian     pat c    Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:16 
 31   same in Burma     opus diablos    Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:45 
 32   WW     pat c    Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:57 
 33   more evidence     opus diablos    Fri Oct 28, 2011 13:10 
 34   An inconvenient execution     pat c    Sat Oct 29, 2011 19:37 
 35   The Murder of Reality     An Draighneán Donn    Sun Oct 30, 2011 19:21 
 36   less monochrome     opus diablos    Mon Oct 31, 2011 09:37 
 37   It was the foulest of murders     Felix Quigley    Tue Nov 01, 2011 08:21 
 38   Felix     pat c    Tue Nov 01, 2011 13:07 
 39   for what its worth     opus diablos    Tue Nov 01, 2011 15:54 
 40   Sure you did! (irony)     Felix Quigley    Wed Nov 02, 2011 07:42 
 41   Thank goodness for that Opus!     Felix Quigley    Wed Nov 02, 2011 07:50 
 42   Opus     An Draighneán Donn    Wed Nov 02, 2011 07:58 
 43   Felix     An Draighneán Donn    Wed Nov 02, 2011 08:09 
 44   UNCONDITIONAL defence of Gadhafi is the touchstone     Felix Quigley    Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:01 
 45   your methodology..     opus diablos    Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:02 
 46   Stick to the issue     Felix Quigley    Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:34 
 47   dont worry, felix..     opus diablos    Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:10 
 48   Felix     pat c    Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:29 
 49   Milosevic     Felix Quigley    Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:10 


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